Do you really want to know (based on previous comments)
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Well, kind of. It’s nice to say “what would you do for your neighbors in 1941” however the reality is whatever actions were taken fell terribly short. What are the actionable behaviors and steps I can make starting today, this week, etc. I check on my contacts who I know are in the immigration process; I spend my money (hahaha small money not anything impressive) when possible in my Brown neighborhood, or spots out in SGV.
I know the Latino vote was a lot more purple than blue, and I haven’t seen any thoughtful reporting on that standpoint now. The demographic being pursued through the streets is Brown people going to work. Other undocumented communities have not had the focus. I do wonder how my conservative neighbor voters process that.
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Yes I think it’s always important to see unfiltered but unpleasant thoughts of alkiegourmand @PeonyWarrior
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I’m grateful for the self edit and desire to be clear in messaging. My personal hell would be the technology of viewers watching the live typing, letter by letter.
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He chose to delete and I have to respect that but to be fair his comments were reasonable and moderate and normal. It wasn’t that he expressed some belief that even I would say is outside the bounds of a discourse I’d engage in. To reiterate, and I’m the first one to be bothered by his trolling, but his comments were both genuine and reasonable. They’d probably be like the most normie/centrist thing on the WSJ op-ed page.
I strongly disagree with @PeonyWarrior on this issue, but from what I gather it’s because we frame the issue differently and have radically different opinions on the paradox of tolerance and how a liberal soceity should handle illiberal political actors.
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My perspective:
I genuinely think it’s wonderful that you are gracious and open-minded.
We’re not talking about people who are just a little bit to the other side of me. It is hard for me to have a meal w/ someone when I think they will simply smile to my face, be very socially appropriate, but then will go on TV or social media to talk about how people like me are evil/have an evil agenda, perhaps even simply shouldn’t exist, and thus we should not surprised when people like me are killed in cold blood.
To break bread w/ such people (or to even think about breaking bread) would seem like the ultimate diss to myself. I’m not even that worried about my neighbors; I simply won’t allow me to treat myself that way.
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I think that’s it.
For what it’s worth, I am actively working against the Trump administration on immigration issues. Philosophically, I support free immigration and think immigration is a huge net positive for America, and more importantly for the immigrants themselves. But I don’t think it’s right to condemn people who support enforcing our democratically enacted immigration laws. And even if that were right, I don’t think it’s productive, as it just entrenches the other side more in their positions. Ostracism of half of Americans is not a good strategy for winning their hearts and minds. Violence and lawlessness is even worse.
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Trump is flouting the law, not enforcing it. He also blocked bipartisan immigration reform so it wouldn’t be less of an election issue.
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Regarding the entrenchment of beliefs and this selective immigration enforcement- there is no federal good sense, good will, or good judgment.
This April 2025 eight minute video from LAUSD Superintendent Alberto Carvalho made a huge impression on me, and started me on the thought process of “if compromise is not possible, what are the next, best steps?” Honestly, it might be attrition with ever more community led patrols and examination of federal presence and actions.
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