Random discussion of Covid-19 not specifically related to restaurants or food

@paranoidgarliclover make sure to leave a day or two free after your appointment just in case you need rest, especially if you take the combo one. It was pretty rough on me.

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I declined the combo since I thought think one at a time would be easier on my body.

I got the booster at 7PM. Felt okay this morning (just the usual very sore arm) but then felt progressively more tired and muscle-achy as the morning wore on. The aches resolved in the mid-afternoon, but I still feel a bit tired (but functional). Thankfully, work was not super busy today.

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This isn’t good. Up 86% since last week.

SF Bay Area so far is holding steady.

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If we aren’t careful, the pattern will repeat itself from last year and holiday gatherings will be brutal. Mask up again and get vaccinated. I’m not sure what else we can do rather than be more careful :frowning:

Wastewater was flat in LA through 10.22. Let’s see, though given undertesting, I’d guess this increase is representative.

https://www.lacsd.org/home/showpublisheddocument/4318/638023702245500000

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Holiday gatherings were brutal last year mostly because Omicron showed up and in addition to being more infectious by a couple of orders of magnitude it was also much better at infecting vaccinated and previously infected people than Alpha or Delta had been, which was not obvious at first. So all of a sudden checking for vaccination did not reduce risk much, if at all.

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Sounds very similar with the current developing situation with BQ1.1 and similar variants.

I’m provisionally sanguine about the alphabet variants, given that wastewater is flat in many places and this current wave is on the downswing in Singapore and the UK. Lab NAb immune evasion is not the full immunity story given vaccination/hybrid immunity. Omi->Omi reinfections are maybe 20%.

But perhaps Singapore isn’t a good analog for our immunity wall. We’ll see.

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1582388947828645889

It’s not similar at all, yet. After Omicron showed up in the US in mid-December, cases increased eight-fold in less than a month.

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The current immune evasion of the emerging variants is worse than omicron to previous variants - so we will see how the situation will develop over the next months

If anything as evasive to current immunity as Omicron was to last year’s comes along, it’ll be obvious within a couple of weeks.

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If Europe is any guide, I think we have some positive inklings.

https://twitter.com/TWenseleers/status/1585740173329199104

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1585687524336205824

Definitely doesn’t appear to be any new surge happening in Europe so far.

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Not Covid-19 but RSV in pediatrics this season is going to be pretty bad. The very old should also be concerned. There are anti-viral medicine to treat this FYI those with young children.

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I’m willing to consider the lab leak theory, though I’ve yet to see any evidence for it. And respectfully, this article has major problems, as this thread highlights.

https://mobile.twitter.com/K_G_Andersen/status/1586477669134192640

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Thanks - completely agree. A lab-based origin is possible but using this article is just ignorance on so many levels.

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Wow always thought propublica was a reliable source for non-partisan well researched information.

I’ll delete the link.

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Unfortunately not in this case - normally they tend to be quite reliable but that is quite underwhelmingly written (which doesn’t mean that a lab-based origin theory couldn’t still turn out to be true but not based on the points they bring up in the article)

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That’s the thing! I thought so too, and it typically is.

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