Aww thanks, @TheCookie. Yes, there’s a Dionne Warwick version too. Happy New Year!
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Two chopsticks sticking up out of bowl = Bad mojo (in certain Asian cultures). FYI.
[/quote]I had a conversation about this with my cousin this week. Did I mention my cousins are half Japanese? Yes you did! Anyway, I told her about this thread and asked her why they have never bothered to teach me these things. Am I too much of a heathen? She said “That really only counts in Japan!” Then she thought about it and said “Or high-end Japanese restaurants.” I raised my eyebrows, like “Bingo!” She said “Really? It’s like that? I’m going to start lurking on your food board.”
It’s safer to assume that East Asian cultures in general would find the chopsticks stuck upright in a bowl would be disconcerting in almost all settings anywhere. It’s considered bad luck, bad manners and disrespectful.
My maternal grandmother was intolerant of bad behavior/manners. At the age of four, I first visited her in Japan. Over that 3 1/2 month visit, I got in so much trouble with her because of - my behavior/manners. It must have been torture for her.
Kids will learn at a very early age that sticking their chopsticks upright in their rice bowls is a serious transgression. It’s natural and seemingly practical to do this act. I did it several times, even after my grandma got all over me constantly - I was a stubborn trouble maker. I didn’t see the reasoning behind this fopaux so I didn’t pay heed - until my fraternal grandma passed away and I saw the symbolic (unmatched) chopsticks upright in the rice bowl.
Dining etiquette is sort of whatever in our society. I think beyond the level of picking one’s nose in public or using an eating utensil to probe one’s ear, it doesn’t seem to be a priority. I’m not a charm school PhDer but I do try not to gross out others when I’m eating. And I think this subject just falls in line with the same attitude.
Well, I’m definitely not doing it anymore regardless, and am glad it was brought to my attention. The one I forget is the chopsticks on the plate in sushi restaurants. I start out with the holder then embarrassingly forget.
My cousin definitely agreed that is bad luck and bad manners. I think she was probably trying to make light of it for my sake. Plus, there was a bit of the rebellious daughter in her tone. Anyway, I thought is was an interesting exchange to share.
Don’t get it twisted about “our” society though. Ever heard of Emily Post? L.A. might be a little loose. But there are definite rules on etiquette for some of us. I think they don’t have as much to do with bad luck or religious symbolism though. Hence, my use of the term “heathen”
. But believe me there are rules.
I mean no offense. I probably shouldn’t join in on these topics. They can make one feel like a bit of an outsider.
Some supposed rules are ridiculous. It’s nobody’s business which hand I use to hold my knife or fork.
Wish I felt that way. But I don’t.
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