You’re basically saying poor people should stop eating sushi so more affluent people like you can continue doing so. Let them eat cake…
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im not naive enough to believe people will stop doing anything but do you not think that the masses eating affordable sushi cause more damage to the ocean than a few rich folks eating high end omakase? It’s not elitist I’m being a realist. I’m stating that if the fish in the ocean will be depleted it will be because sushi became too affordable and too accessible. But lets come back to this in 10 years and you can tell me it was fine we didn’t change course somehow. Like I already stated, the choice will be made for us when all the affordable fish will be gone. Maybe we’ll be eating lab grown tuna if the technology gets here fast enough?
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Crudo E Nudo is another one. I imagine their other spot Isla probably is as well, but that’s just a guess.
But the question is if those “few” (which, in addition, I doubt are just a few worldwide without an impact in the overall system) are also part of the problem by “setting the tone” that rare and expensive fish, often flown across the world (with a lousy carbon footprint), is something desirable - perhaps the rich folks should also limit their sushi consumption (or better, it should be much stronger regulated) to be part of the solution for a food system worldwide that has a positive impact for a much broader population - the “rich” shouldn’t always be allowed to have a “bail out” card just because they are rich
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I’m so glad FTCers are taking a principled stand against overconsumption.
Exactly… I was just about to write this. Isn’t a lot of the high-end tuna the “elite” eat caught in New England, transported to auction in Japan and then brought back to the US?
My point @Jlee isn’t that you’re right or wrong… But isn’t the irony that 1) you’re basically arguing poor people shouldn’t eat sushi that isn’t sustainably farmed or whatever, but 2) poor people can’t afford to eat sustainably farmed sushi, thus 3) poor people shouldn’t eat sushi, but 4) if poor people can’t get sushi then why should they care about preservation of fish stocks, 5) so rich people can continue to eat bluefin, nogoduro, etc.? 6) Any poor person would likely conclude then, screw it, I’m going to eat cheap sushi.
It’s no different from my rich friend who goes to these exclusive preserves in Africa, Antarctica, etc., where the entry price is prohibitive and in many cases limited to large donors. He comes back and posts, I don’t get why everyone on Earth isn’t concerned about preserving the beauty of these places. And he lives so much in his own world that he can’t realize that uh, 99.9% of people will never have access to these places so they could care less about whether they are preserved are not.
End of day, the overwhelming percentage of people on earth are just trying to get by in life and have some fun in their otherwise mundane lives and so, worrying about preservation of whatever is really mostly a 1%er type issue.
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Lol. So funny, true and unironically sad.
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nobody is saying poor people shouldn’t eat sushi. what we are saying is AYCE sushi is not good for the sustainability of fish in the ocean.
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I read cheap sushi as encompassing more than just AYCE. Basically whatever non-elite people have access to.
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Uh was just gonna post the same quoted up thread @dvlpmnt
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Guy it’s this, try to keep up. also, as Jlee’s saying think about this through a global lens. If this all started with 1 single original poster in Fullerton talking about how they eat 90+ pieces of sushi at a time just for lunch, just scale that out and think about it.
lol…I’m going to stop replying since I can see this is going off the rails. But man, I’m certainly not going to judge the “poor people” who want to eat cheap sushi. God bless, I hope they eat as much as they want because the world has far bigger problems.
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lol tbh I think cheap sushi is garbage avocado rolls and cream cheese smoked salmon rolls
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Maybe scale back a tone that some (including me) might find condescending? More people might be willing to listen.
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Sure I don’t think talking about overconsumption of anything in a general sense is wrong.
But tying that overconsumption to income and class seems a bit much.
Additionally going so hard on one poster for enjoying two meals on a food message board when others overindulge consistently seems hypocritical.
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Yeah, I got triggered (sorry to everyone if I was too aggressive) because I grew up poor. I get that folks can look at the masses waiting in line to eat AYCE s–t sushi in disgust. But I was one of those folks growing up… I still remember how joyful it was when my parents took me to eat AYCE sushi. I didn’t know it was crap. It was just something I never got to eat that I knew the rich kids at school ate all the time. So yeah, today, I hate cheap sushi and I avoid it at all costs. But I will never look down on those that eat it. And yes, sushi is not a right, but a privilege and certainly I’m not going to sit here and argue for taking that privilege away when there are so many other issues that ail the world.
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I don’t see sushi as a right or a privilege, its just another median in capitalism.
It is a a commodity that is across the spectrum in price because those selling it couldn’t care less about overconsumption. Excess and overconsumption is a trait of capitalism and is usually encouraged by both seller and buyer. It’s unfortunate, but it outweighs the desire of those who care about the environment. Fish, trees, oil, etc it’s all the same. Prices will go up due to not enough supply for the demand.
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I wish I could write as well as you! Well said!
Good question. I’m not sure if that data’s available, especially given the amount of mislabeling and illegal trade.