Continuing the discussion from Where's kevin:
@bulavinaka’s comment, “the cost of tossing verbal mud pies” reminds me:
Where in L.A. (Pasadena-ish preferred, if at all possible) might one find a really good Mud Pie? Real chocolate crumb crust, absurd amount of good quality coffee ice cream, etc.?
Last place I saw one on a menu was at Islands (don’t bother); we did grab one from the TJ freezer section a week or two ago and it was okay and scratched the itch, but was not the obscenely fulfilling experience we desire.
(I did note that Milk has a mud pie cake thing, and will be trying that, but I don’t think it’s quite the same thing.)