Restaurant prices: threat or menace?

You have split multiple of my threads, so I guess in your eyes I am a “repeat offender” with “bad posting habits”.

My posts are public (as all of ours are on here), I would encourage anyone on here to read through them - curious to hear if others agree with you that I am those things. I’m not taking a position on my own behavior as it’s impossible to do so impartially.

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Skimming your recent posts, I had to go back over a month to find one that recommended a restaurant (with no details), and since then a lot of negative posts that wouldn’t help anyone find anything good to eat.

Conversation about restaurants, asking questions and being curious, and engaging with forum members is valuable contribution to this forum. Not everything needs to be a restaurant recommendation.

“negative” posts or bad reactions to a restaurant are also helpful for many (like me) but even beter when they spark discussion or disagreement because different members of the forum have different points of view.

If your vision of this forum is that it should only be recommendations and agreement, it’s an interesting take. I’m normally one for radiating positivity and only having constructive feedback - especialyl with how hard it is to run a restaurant nowadays - but discounting someone’s contributions for not adhering to a overly sunny view of a restaurant, a scene, or our current moment in dining makes me wonder if you actually want this to be a board for discussion or a curated collection of posts.

Take Loaxley’s question about Noma in comparison to the Damian/Pujol popup (that most people posted negatively about, btw) which gave us the chance to highlight things we LIKE about Noma’s popups in other cities. Or when some folks didn’t like Firstborn which gave me the chance to say the things I like about it, and why. Every post that isn’t negative in intention (even if it’s a negativetake on a restaurant) is a reason I come to this forum.

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yeah this is such a bizarre metric to be judging a poster’s value by - how are you judging “negative posts” that don’t help anyone find something good to eat? who says that they don’t, ultimately, in the end? looney tunes.

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As others have already said, is your only metric of someone’s contributions wholly positive posts that recommend restaurants in unqualified terms and are chock full of photos and in-depth descriptions? Relaying past experiences, informing people about updates in the neighborhood, asking questions - which is most of my recent activity - none of that is positive contribution? Am I less of a contributor in your eyes because I don’t post a photo diary and novella from Hayato every month?

“I had to go back over a month to find one that recommended a restaurant”

I literally gave Breadhead positive marks 8 days ago…
Providence 14 days ago
Somni 15 days ago
Flour Pizzeria 16 days ago
Beethoven Market 21 days ago
Terra and La Pizza / La Pasta a month ago
Rustic Canyon just over a month ago
Torrisi just over a month ago

Over the same time period, I said middling things about:
Amici (though this shouldn’t count because it was posted after your post)
Eataly (prepared food only)
Pasjoli (only in reference to the duck press)

And negative things about:
Pujol @ Damian
Pasjoli (but only in reference to the menu)

Just say you don’t like me and let’s move on, but don’t lie about my posts when they’re public and there for everyone to see.

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You didn’t post any details or photos of a recent meal. Just a lot of vague stuff. Skimming there’s a clear negative tone coming through for me. If you hadn’t posted any of that I don’t think it would have made a difference to anyone. Compare, for example, the positive contributions by PorkyBelly or the reformed troll PeonyWarrior.

Robert, you are moving the goalposts in every subsequent comment. First it’s that I am constantly derailing topics. Then it’s that I am not recommending restaurants. Now it’s that maybe I am recommending restaurants, but there’s not enough detail and you don’t love my tone. You are being both mean and unfair. You don’t like me, I get it. I’m done with this conversation.

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I didn’t aay you were constantly derailing topics. You said I’ve done it with your posts more than once. I can’t remember.

You do stand out as a frequently negative voice. I don’t like or dislike you but I don’t like unconstructive negativity.

Roberts lack of response to this message and zero-ing in on @Loaxley , ignoring the flip side to his accusations that Loaxley’s posts have contributed to valuable discussion and helpful tips on this forum point to a different kind of “social media unpleasantness” that feels a bit more like projection than self awareness.

Especially highlighting specific users that he values more - this forum will become an insular club with an attitude like that - rather than one that invites a diversity of opinion positive, negative, inquisitive, curious, and everything in between.

If anyone wants to call me on my shit with posting, have at it. I’m always down to self reflect and improve.

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here here!

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Post deleted for poor timing.

Posting vague opinions about restaurants, particularly negative ones, without details of actual meals and dishes is not adding diversity of opinion, it’s lowering quality of discussion.

Taking comments like this from the moderator personally is missing the point.

I was genuinely planning to be done with this conversation, but this post demands a response. I will not allow a post defaming me to go unchallenged. I am not “lowering quality of discussion” on this website. That’s not my opinion - that’s the opinion of everybody else on the board who has vocalized an opinion. I would simply point to the number of likes on your last few posts, compared to the number of likes on posts taking a contrary opinion to yours, or the numerous people who have reached out to me privately to communicate those exact sentiments.

I will again pledge to step away from this conversation, assuming you stop dragging my name through the mud.

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I’m sorry - what constitutes something quality? Is it pictures? I avoid pictures at restaurants. Is it quantity of dishes described? Sometimes I’m glad to hear someone who spends their time on this forums opinion even if it’s short. Also again, starting conversation and posing questions is valuable for discussion - and you won’t acknowledge that fact. Not everyone has time for essays - and any contribution however short is useful to me. I’m not one for wordy posts when it comes to food and I’ve hoped I’ve earned enough trust from people that even the quick opinion is valuable. Shit, there are plenty of posts that sometimes just say “we liked this place” from homies like @PeonyWarrior with a number rating. (Acknowledging they also leave detailed reviews often! Hope you don’t mind me saying @PeonyWarrior that I value your short posts too even if we disagree because it gives a chance to engage in a deeper discussion)

If there’s anyone who is devaluing the quality of discussion - it’s your close mindedness and assuming the worst intentions of people’s time on here. I didn’t want to revisit this thread but you are the only one exhibiting any unpleasantness here and it’s not a great way to lead.

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its time to split this thread

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Very sorry to disappoint everyone who came for the price conversation :melting_face:

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Made me laugh.

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Which includes no one with the sense to skip this nasty pointless thread.

@Loaxley threat or menace?

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it’s a feature not a bug

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